I just finished listening to Terry Gross’s interview with C. Peter Wagner, founder and apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).
I fully suspected he was going to come off as a nut case but actually found him to be quite endearing. He has tolerance. He sounds like a reasonable and kind elderly gentleman. And his main desire is that everyone gain entry to the pearly gates (albeit by embracing his lord, but still–it’s a kindly sentiment). Even his talk of witches and demons made me warm to him (my mother talks plenty about devas and faeries and I love her for it).
Then he goes and says this about the tsunami that struck Japan earlier this year:
God could have prevented that tsunami and the destruction, but he didn’t. He just took his hand off and allowed these natural forces to work.
Apparently God did that because the Emperor of Japan slept with the Sun Goddess who’s a nasty bitch (and one of those demons), so the people of Japan had to be devastated because… um, ??? Oh yeah, because the civilization is worshipping a demon so God said “Look Ma, no hands!” Come on Mr. Wagner–really?
So these pearly gates that you’d like us all entry to are run by a God who would destroy people because their supposed leader slept with a demon?
The bottom line: if any individual (or group) thinks their way is the only way, it’s a no go for me.
Huge props go to Terry Gross for this level-headed and restrained look inside the NAR.
There’s so much more in this interview that I didn’t discuss so please go listen to it and let me know what you think. I’m fascinated by this guy. Scholarly, thoughtful, and nutso all at the same time.